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Divergent States

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Divergent States cuts through psychedelic hype with grounded, curious conversations about what these substances actually do. Hosted by 3L1T3, founder of r/Psychonaut, the world’s largest psychedelic harm-reduction community, and co-hosted by Bryan, a USMC veteran and advocate for psychedelic healing, the show brings together lived experience, science, and culture without losing its sense of humor. This isn’t a spiritual podcast.This isn’t a marketing platform. No mysticism. No sales pitch. Just real conversations, harm reduction, and honest questions. We explore how psychedelics shape mental health, creativity, and society, from underground use and peer-support communities to clinical trials, therapy rooms, and shifting public attitudes. Some episodes get serious. Some get weird. All of them are grounded in respect for the people actually taking these substances and living with the outcomes. Guests include Rick Doblin, Reggie Watts, Leonard Pickard, Anne Wagner, Hamilton Morris, and Rick Strassman. Divergent States is built on the same principles that made r/Psychonaut work at scale: curiosity without gullibility, openness without losing your footing, and safety without killing the joy. If you’re looking for guru worship, this isn’t your show. If you’re looking for thoughtful, funny, and grounded conversations about psychedelics and the lives they touch, welcome to Divergent States. New episodes every two weeks.

Latest episodes

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The Missing Piece of Psychedelics: Global Psychedelic Society on Community

What if one of the biggest things missing from the modern psychedelic conversation isn't another drug, therapy, or clinical protocol, but community? In this episode

Sep 9
1 h 06 min

Portals vs. Pathways: The Real Work After Psychedelics | Jonathan Schecter

There’s a big difference between having a psychedelic experience and actually doing something with it. Jonathan Schecter, host of Vital Point: Pathways to Integration an

Aug 25
1 h 00 min

The Counterculture of Aging: Abbie Rosner on Psychedelics and Elderhood

What can psychedelics offer when the question is no longer “Who am I becoming?” but “What do I do with the life I’ve already lived?” Abbie Rosner, author of Psychedelics

Aug 11
1 h 06 min

Naked Out Loud: Machan Taylor on Memory, Music, and MDMA Therapy

Machan Taylor has spent a lifetime using her voice. As a singer, songwriter, performer, and author of Naked Out Loud, she has worked with artists including Pink Floyd, Pa

Jul 21
58 min

The Art of Psychedelic Peer Support | Zendo Project

What actually happens when a psychedelic experience becomes overwhelming in the middle of a concert, festival, or crowded event? 3L1T3 and Bryan sit down with Case Newso

Jul 7
1 h 03 min

Who Should Be Allowed to Guide Psychedelic Experiences? | Dori Lewis

Dori Lewis is a psychotherapist, clinical supervisor, Natural Medicine Facilitator, and Co-Founder of Elemental Psychedelics. She also owns Reflective Healing Center, one

Jun 23
55 min

The NFL Broke His Brain… Then Ibogaine Changed Everything | Robert Gallery

Former NFL player and College Football Hall of Famer Robert Gallery joins Divergent States for one of the most raw conversations we’ve had on the show. After retiring fr

Jun 8
54 min

The Hidden Politics of Psychedelic Media | Dennis Walker

Dennis Walker joins Divergent States to unpack how psychedelic stories actually become “news,” why sensationalism dominates drug coverage, and how media narratives shape

May 19
1 h 02 min

Psychedelics Don’t Fix Your Life… Here’s What They Actually Do | Talia Eisenberg

Psychedelics don’t fix your life. They don’t make you a better person. They don’t replace responsibility. And they don’t solve the problems waiting for you when you come

May 5
55 min

Psilocybin Therapy Works… But Not Like You Think, with Compass Pathways

If one or two psychedelic sessions can produce measurable improvements in treatment-resistant depression, why does modern psychiatry still rely on daily medication? In t

Apr 21
54 min

Manuela Picq: The People Behind the Coca Leaf - The Many Faces of Coca Part Three

This is the human center of The Many Faces of Coca. By the time coca enters Western conversations, it’s already been abstracted—reduced to policy, drugs, or crime. But f

Apr 6
48 min

Dennis McKenna: The Chemistry Behind the Coca Leaf - The Many Faces of Coca Part Two

The Many Faces of Coca – Part Two In Part Two of the Many Faces of Coca series, 3L1T3 and Bryan sit down with renowned ethnopharmacologist Dennis McKenna to explore the

Mar 16
1 h 03 min

Wade Davis: From Sacred Leaf to Global Scapegoat - The Many Faces of Coca Part One

In Part One of The Many Faces of Coca, 3L1T3 and Bryan sit down with Wade Davis to unpack the long history of the coca leaf and how a plant used for over 8,000 years beca

Mar 2
1 h 00 min

ETEREO: What No One Tells You About Iboga Work

Iboga has a reputation. It’s intense. It’s long. It carries real risk. And for some people, it’s life-changing. But what actually happens inside a retreat container? An

Feb 16
49 min

Cesar Marin: Microdosing, Midlife, and Reinvention

What happens when a 25-year career at CNN ends — and a new life begins? In this episode of Divergent States, we talk with Cesar Marin, former CNN producer and founder of

Feb 2
57 min

Shane Mauss: How Psychedelics Actually Change the Mind

What really happens when psychedelics change someone, and why do some people come back grounded while others spiral into ego, conspiracy, or spiritual bypassing? In this

Jan 19
1 h 08 min

Inside Season Two: Integration, Not Escapism

Season Two of Divergent States is about something simple and surprisingly rare: exploring altered states without losing touch with reality. In this preview episode, 3L1T

Jan 7
12 min

Dennis McKenna: Nature, AI, and the Collapse of Separation

Dennis McKenna joins 3L1T3 and Valerie Beltran to discuss the future of psychedelics, indigenous knowledge, and whether we are ready to bring these tools into mainstream

Nov 21 2025
1 h 23 min

Betty Aldworth: MAPS, MDMA, and the Battle Over Psychedelic Medicine

In this episode of Divergent States, 3L1T3 sits down with Betty Aldworth, the new co-president of MAPS, as she steps into shared leadership with Ismail Ali following Rick

Nov 5 2025
1 h 07 min

David Bronner on Corporate Psychedelics, Mysticism, and the All-One Future

Dr. Bronner’s Cosmic Engagement Officer David Bronner joins Divergent States for a candid, nuts-and-bolts conversation about building an “All One” company culture, pushin

Oct 22 2025
1 h 16 min

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