Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast (DtSR)

DtSR Episode 722 - Vulnerability Math Ain't Mathing

TL;DR: Robert "RSnake" Hansen & Jeremiah Grossman join the pod to talk about the "Vuln-pocalypse", or rather, the lack thereof. We do some math, discuss whether it's

DtSR Episode 721 - Finance Masterclass for Cyber (Part 2)

TL;DR: This pod is part 2 of a 2-part series in which Patrick shares his insights on the world of finance as it relates to cyber startups and financing. As promised, the

DtSR Episode 720 - Finance Masterclass for Cyber (Part 1)

TL;DR: This week's pod features a Masterclass on finance for Cyber folks, led by Patrick Dennis, where we ask all kinds of questions and go from idea to the pre-grow

DtSR Episode 719 - Budget Season for CISOs

Guests Jack KorzeniowskiKen FosterTL;DR: Budget season is upon us, and Rafal & James sit down with Ken Foster and Jack Korzeniowski to get some insights into how CISOs d

DtSR Episode 718 - Black Hat Recap And The Rush To Rebrand Everything

Guest: Dr. Chase "ZeroTrust" Cunningham TL;DR: AI Marketing slop took over Black Hat Las Vegas 2026, and Rafal sits down for a one-on-one with Chase Cunningham. Featurin

DtSR Episode 717 - Your UI is Bullshit

Guests: Michael Farnum, Sam Van Ryder TL;DR: Most cybersecurity dashboards don’t fail because they’re ugly. They fail because they don’t change what we do next. Descrip

DtSR Episode 716 - What if Context Replaced Alerts Entirely

Guests: Jason Vest & Josh Neil TL;DR: Alert fatigue is still a problem; detection isn't generationally better - but we have all this AI. So what gives? Description

DtSR Episode 715 - Reducing The Toil of the SOC Analyst

TL;DR: David Kennedy & Larry Whiteside, Jr. join the podcast to talk about how 'alerts' are a terrible measure of work in the SOC, and what we're doing abo

DtSR Episode 714 - Limitations and Expectations for AI SOC Part 2

TL;DR: This week's pod is the conclusion to the 2-part series on AI SOC with Anton Chuvakin, Daniel Miessler, Rock Lambros, Erik Bloch, and Raja Mukerji. We talk abo

DtSR Episode 713 - Limitations and Expectations for AI SOC Part 1

TL;DR: Join Raja Mukerji, Anton Chuvakin, Daniel Miessler, Rock Lambros, and Erik Bloch for a banger of an episode (part 1 of 2) where we debate the potential of AI and t

DtSR Episode 712 - Lies My AI SOC Salesman Tells

TL;DR: Seth Summersett of Embed Security joins the podcast to talk about the snake oil that's coming from the AI SOC sellers. There's such a significant gap bet

DtSR Episode 711 - Tim Chase Boring but Necessary

TL;DR: This week's pod features Tim Chase, a field CISO and, by background, a practitioner. We talk about "prioritization", a topic that's boring but incredibly

DtSR Episode 710 - Leading and Innovating in Security

TL;DR: This week's podcast features Adam Ely - innovator, leader, and founder. Adam's led some of the world's largest security orgs, and started a tiny sta

DtSR Episode 709 - Zero Trusting OT

TL;DR: Phillip Wylie joins Rafal live from Zero Trust World 2026 in Orlando, FL, to talk about Operational Technologies (OT) in the context of Zero Trust. As the Joker on

DtSR Episode 708 - Does AI Give Threat Actors an Advantage

TL;DR: This week's pod features Karim Hijazi, Adam Meyers, and Will Gragido on AI and the potential advantages for adversaries. It's a fascinating discussion wi

DtSR Episode 707 - Impact of AI on the Intelligence Game

TL;DR: Today's pod features Will Gragido, a multi-time returning guest with deep expertise in cyber intelligence, threat actors, and related activity. Will shares hi

DtSR Episode 706 - Practical AppSec for the AI Vulnpocalypse

TL;DR: How are organizations like the Motley Fool handling AppSec right now? How are companies building sustainable, measurable, and resilient software security programs,

DtSR Episode 705 - Idiocracy or Star Trek

TL;DR: Howard Holton's back for part 2 of this 2-part special on the cybersecurity market, procurement's role, innovation, and now with 100% more AI discussion

DtSR Episode 704 - Market Saturation, Innovation and Procurement

TL;DR: Buckle up. Howard Holton, CEO of GigaOm, joins for a 2-part special on the cybersecurity market, innovation, market saturation, and more. What an absolute blast of

DtSR Episode 703 - The Myth and Reality of Mythos

TL;DR: Returning guest Gadi Evron joins the crew to talk about the latest bomb dropped by Anthropic - "Mythos". Allegedly, this model could bring about the vulnerability