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Curt, Pepper, and Amy model the power of being known as they bring relevant, life-changing teaching about interpersonal neurobiology. I’m not exaggerating when I say this podcast has changed my life and shaped the work I do in the world as a writer, speaker, coach, and leader. I learn something new on every episode, and will be forever grateful for their commitment to going first as they practice the redemptive work of allowing themselves to be fully known. Thanks for showing us a different way to be human!
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That’s what comes to mind when I think of this podcast. I’m so grateful for Curt and Pepper’s friendship through which they share their love for one another, showing how important it is to be vulnerable in order to grow, helping me to truly understand the depth of God’s love for us. I first heard Season 9 and loved it so much I now am listening from the beginning and telling all my friends and family about it. Curt and Pepper share so much knowledge, so much humor, so much caring, so much beauty in helping me to ‘discover and explore’ my life ‘hidden with Christ in God.’ Curt and Pepper, I can’t thank you enough.
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I really appreciate two grown men being real and vulnerable with each other! Pepper & Curt the holistically speak to both a felt sense as well as the scientific side of our human experience. Grounded in science and psychology and appreciative of spirituality, this podcast is a gem.
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Thank y’all for this podcast! I thought it was strange at first, but I really do feel understood and attuned to when I listen. My nervous system settles, and as a therapist, it helps me to show up differently for my clients (through genuine connection versus performance anxiety). Blessings to each of you as y’all continue the work God has ordained.
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